
Caitlyn Jenner appeared on Tomi Lahren’s Fox Nation podcast this week to “break her silence” with an hour of slurred rambling. During the interview, she mentioned that, due to Donald Trump’s anti-trans executive orders, her passport now says she’s male, curtailing her ability to travel, but she assured Fox listeners that she still loves the president.
The excruciating appearance was yet more evidence that Trump and his MAGA movement are in full meltdown mode.
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Producers even seemed to acknowledge that fact with a meta title for the episode, maybe directed at every Trump-enabling Republican: “Am I A Hypocrite?” The title was a reference to Jenner’s declaration earlier this week that she is a “hypocrite” because she accepted Glamour’s “Woman of the Year” award in 2015 before turning against trans women’s rights.
Out of the gate, Lahren wanted to get Jenner’s take on trans stuff roiling the MAGA-sphere: former Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem’s husband’s “bimbofication” fascination and maybe going trans himself.
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“I like Kristi Noem,” Jenner held forth, marble-mouthed. “I think she is a smart, intelligent, hardworking — she’s shown that throughout her career. And I like people like that.”
“When it gets to relationships, obviously I’m not a good spokesman for that!” Jenner blurted, laughing and reeling in her seat. “I’ve been married three times, and yeah, yeah, things didn’t work out, so.”
And so it went for 60 minutes with commercials as Jenner and her host tried to untie the Gordian knot Republicans find themselves in.
Somebody bring MAGA the sword.
Jenner confessed that she’s been having trouble traveling lately after the Trump administration renewed her passport with a “male” gender marker.
She said she recently wrote a letter to Trump while staying at Mar-a-Lago, asking for help with her problem. She never saw or heard from him.
While the “M” on her passport is a “big problem,” Jenner said, she assured Lahren, “I don’t blame President Trump. I love him.”
She has Trump’s cell number, she added, but opted not to call him.
The passport policy is based on Trump’s executive order that he signed on his first day in office in 2025, saying that the U.S. would only recognize two sexes, male and female, as determined by physical characteristics. The order directed federal agencies to only issue government documents, including passports, that reflect a person’s sex assigned at birth.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio ordered the department to stop issuing passports with X gender markers to nonbinary people and to only issue passports with a person’s sex assigned at birth listed. The Supreme Court upheld the administration’s power to do so in November.
Jenner famously supported Trump’s 2024 campaign, saying that he would be the president who supports “world peace.”
Jenner did admit maybe Republicans were going too far with the whole bathroom thing.
Maybe they’re “going too far to the right” with transgender bathroom bans, Jenner said.
“I have so many of my friends are just, you know, just gorgeous women,” Jenner said, trying to assemble a sentence. “Trying to force these people into the men’s room. And it’s just not right. And it’s not safe.”
Back in her place, though, Jenner admitted, per Trump’s executive order declaring only two “immutable” sexes, that she’s not really a woman.
Ten years ago, Jenner accepted a “Woman of the Year” award from Glamour magazine, which she now regrets. Accepting it now makes her feel like a “hypocrite.”
“I started thinking, ‘What a hypocrite I am,’ trying to keep biological men out of women’s sports, but I’m a biological man, and they gave me Glamour’s Woman of the Year Award,” Jenner said, trying mightily to reconcile life’s MAGA contradictions.
“Genetically, I’m still XY,” Jenner explained. “There’s nothing I can do about that. And I’m fine with it. I’m just glad that I can wake up in the morning and just be myself.”
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