A clip of two conservative podcasters discussing how air fresheners turn men gay is going viral.

“Your car air freshener is turning you gay!” said conservative “wellness activist” Alex Clark on Sean Kelly’s podcast. “It is depleting you of testosterone. It is wrecking your hormones.”

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Clark attended Ivy Tech Community College, although it’s unclear if she ever obtained a degree, and worked in radio broadcasting before rebranding herself as a conservative podcaster. She has no expertise in medicine, endocrinology, biochemistry, or even biology more generally.

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On Kelly’s podcast, she claimed that she was in an Uber and the driver had “like a pack of trees, pack of car fragrance trees.” She said that she told the driver the air fresheners would turn him gay and he immediately threw them away.

“I just saved that man’s balls!” she said. “Those can make you very, very sick, it can make it hard to get pregnant. I mean, there’s a myriad of issues with anything that has perfume or fragrance that’s artificial.”

There is no evidence that fragrances – no matter their chemical composition – affect testosterone levels at the levels that they are present in car air fresheners.

Moreover, while it’s an article of faith in some parts of the internet that low testosterone turns men gay, there is no scientific backing for this idea. “Numerous studies have clearly established that plasma concentrations of sex steroids are perfectly ‘normal’ (typical of the gonadal sex) in both gay men and lesbians,” states one 2011 review of the literature on hormones and sexual orientation.

In a separate video that Kelly posted to his social media accounts, Clark claims that “liberal men have low testosterone.” She said it was because liberal men eat more ultraprocessed food than conservative men do, another assertion that she didn’t provide any proof for.

Kelly’s podcast trades in conspiracy theories and woo, including the false assertion that Joe Biden stole the 2020 election. He devotes episodes to numerology, get-rich-quick schemes, and adult film actors, and has interviewed neo-Nazi Nick Fuentes multiple times on his channel in the past.

Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (R-FL) has appeared on Kelly’s podcast several times, and so have chronic Democratic presidential candidate Marianne Williamson, misogynist influencer Andrew Tate, and conservative gay commentator Dave Rubin.

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