Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH) and gay conservative podcaster Tim Dillon repeated transphobic right-wing talking points during an interview over the past weekend, with Vance stressing to Dillon that he’s not gay. Dillon claimed that allies of transgender people want nine-year-old girls to have a beard, and Vance also claimed that medical transitioning is “conversion therapy” to turn gay people trans.

During the interview, Vance claimed the medical industry is profiting off of transitioning minors and insinuated that “they” are trying to convince gay kids that they are, in fact, transgender.

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“I’m not a gay guy, but I’ve heard this from gay friends of mine…” Vance said before Dillon started laughing uproariously at Vance’s need to say that he’s not gay.